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EthanK
June 4, 2004, 11:52 AM
Written by the writer of The Office, it's a homage to some of the greatest comedians in history.

Sibling ribaldry
Friday June 4, 2004
The Guardian


When the movie work began to dry up, Groucho Marx found a new lease of life as the host of a radio quiz show, You Bet Your Life. On one edition he had to make chitchat with a woman who had 10 children. She explained that the reason she had so many kids was that she loved her husband. "I love my cigar," quipped Groucho, "but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."

The line was deemed too smutty and never made it on to the air, but it captures the very essence of Groucho. On any other show a mother of 10 would receive a round of applause. With Groucho, she gets a slap in the face. For him, she's not a shining example of the beauty and nobility of motherhood; she's just some bird who's at it all the time.

Many comedians have been called irreverent and anarchic but Groucho and his brothers truly were, on screen and off. After years of hard-earned success on Broadway, where audiences lapped up their chaotic, anything-goes approach, the brothers arrived in Hollywood with an arrogant swagger. They knew they were funny and kow-towed before no one. Groucho, who had taken to wearing a fake greasepaint moustache in vaudeville, refused to grow a real one for the cameras. When MGM vice-president Irving Thalberg kept the Marxes waiting once too often, he returned to his office to find them stark naked, roasting potatoes over an open fire.

On set, the brothers were either ad-libbing mavericks or undisciplined show-offs, depending on which of their collaborators you believe. During the filming of Animal Crackers (1930), the director had small prison cells built, in which he would lock the brothers to stop them running off. Their early films captured the wild energy of their stage revues, a loose plot around which the Marxes and their writers could wreak havoc.

Monkey Business (1931) is essentially one long sketch on board an ocean liner, with the brothers as stowaways who burst out of their hiding place and run amok like wild Tex Avery cartoons. There's a genuine sense of anarchy in the film, the banter and hi-jinks feel fluid and improvised, as if someone had just turned the cameras on and let the brothers loose. They're forever sliding into frame, encountering a ship official or a dignified passenger and humiliating them, physically or verbally, for no other reason than because they can. Chico and Harpo race and tumble and roller-skate around on deck while stowaway Groucho runs rings round the dazed ship's captain: "I don't care for the way you're running this boat. Why don't you get in the back seat and let your wife drive?"

Born of the Great Depression, the brothers were unhinged maniacs with no roots, no ties, no responsibilities, fighting back on behalf of the disenfranchised little man. As the normally silent Harpo once put it: "People all have inhibitions and hate them. We just ignore them. Every man wants to chase a pretty girl if he sees one. He doesn't. I do. Most people at some time want to throw things round recklessly. They don't - but we do."

Many people point to Duck Soup (1933), with Groucho as a president deliberately leading his country into an unnecessary war, as the archetypal Marx Brothers movie. Certainly it's as pertinent as ever, but personally, I think Monkey Business is their definitive film. It's shamelessly self-indulgent and full of aimless chaos and, although it may look quaint and dated, the sense of pointless rebellion throughout is as modern and anarchic as, say, punk rock. And much funnier than anything John Lydon ever spouted.

While Chico is the perfect lowlife cross-talking straight man and Harpo an endearing clown, it's Groucho who steals every film. He happily tramples across everything, from beds and tables to social manners and civilised behaviour. Many of the great comic personas - Woody Allen, Oliver Hardy, to name but two - want to be part of society; they want to be thought of as sophisticated, intelligent, desirable. Not Groucho. What does he want? Seemingly nothing. He romances women but only really to pass the time, insulting them relentlessly as if he had made some wager with himself to see how far he can push it before they crumble.

"You're one of the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, and that's not saying much for you" he tells the long-suffering Margaret Dumont. "I could dance with you until the cows come home. On second thoughts, I'll dance with the cows until you come home." It's as though he has some strange form of Tourette's syndrome: "I can see you and I married. I can see you bending over the stove. Funny, I can't see the stove!"

With A Night at the Opera (1935), producer Irving Thalberg proved he could cut half the laughs and make twice as much at the box office by introducing a proper story. By making the Marxes help two young lovers outwit a villain, he gave their unfocused madness some purpose. Good storytelling logic - but the brothers were never about logic and, after Thalberg's untimely death, they tried to repeat his formula with less and less success. By the time of A Night in Casablanca (1946), the brothers were looking old and undignified as they clambered around on an aeroplane trying to foil some Nazis.

It was a far cry from the Marx Brothers of the 1930s, when they were considered so left field that Salvador Dali wrote a script for them called, rather predictably, The Marx Brothers on Horseback Salad. Dali considered Harpo to be a kindred spirit and even if they weren't thoroughbred surrealists, their mischievous, sideways thinking was adored by the likes of Antonin Artaud and Eugene Ionesco. As with the absurdists, nothing in Marx-land was sacred, least of all plot or story or the conventions of realism. Only a few years after Al Jolson had first spoken on screen, Groucho was bursting through the fourth wall by addressing the audience directly: "I've got to stay here, but there's no reason you folks shouldn't go out into the lobby till this thing blows over."

Their disregard for conventions of form and their verbal non-sequiturs pre-dated the anarchy of the Goons on radio and Monty Python on TV. Indeed, the Marx Brothers might well be the most influential screen comedians of all time. Chico and Harpo's infantile love of pointless destruction has been recycled endlessly by the great (John Belushi on Saturday Night Live) and the not-so-great (Freddie Starr on Des O'Connor). Groucho was obsessed with sex years before Woody Allen, and was taking swipes at authority long before Bill Hicks. His wise-ass put-downs ("I don't want to join any organisation that would have me as a member") have not only informed the smart-alec backchat of everyone from Bugs Bunny to Bill Murray, but have also become the kite standard for every stand-up comic since.

In Horse Feathers (1932), Groucho is the coach of a football team. He takes a girl boating on a lake but is instantly infuriated by her cutesy baby talk. "Is gweat big strong mans gonna show liddle icky baby all about those football signals?" she says, trying to seduce him. "If icky girl keep talking that way," responds Groucho, "big stwong man gonna kick all her teef wight down her thwoat." It's the sort of misanthropic intolerance of other people's insufferable pet habits that could have come straight out of Larry David's Curb Your Enthusiasm, the hippest US comedy of the moment.

Are the Marx Brothers still relevant? Does it matter? Nothing stays cutting edge forever. When I was young Eddie Murphy was considered a foul-mouthed bad influence. Nowadays, he's family-friendly Doctor Dolittle. Does that diminish how cool and exciting he was in Beverly Hills Cop? Not for me. The Marx Brothers' movies may have dated but, thanks to my dad, I started watching them when I was very young and I was charmed by their lunacy long before I'd realised that they were running amok in the distant 1930s. To keep their legend alive, Marx Brothers fans should be watching them on DVD in front of impressionable young kids. If you can get your five year old hooked on Harpo's mugging and Chico's pidgin English, they'll soon acclimatise to the scratchy sound and creaky plots, and will be primed to fully appreciate Groucho once they hit puberty. Get 'em young and the Marx Brothers will remain as irreverent and irreplaceable as ever.

Kit's Alter Ego
June 4, 2004, 11:34 PM
Duck Soup! That was the other movie I was thinking of!

Canadian Bacon
The Mouse That Roared
Wag The Dog
and
Duck. Soup.

Silly unnecessary war movies.

--Kit

PS: Silly unnecessary-war movies.

Zack Bly
June 5, 2004, 01:02 PM
What a great article! I love those guys.

Dana S
July 19, 2004, 07:11 PM
Okay so maybe I am over a month late posting to this-but I am such a big Marx bros fan I couldn't pass it up. I liked the article. You guys should read Groucho's autobiography: Groucho and Me, it's one of my favorite books. Even the chapter titles and bits written under the photos are pretty funny. It's got some pretty great anecdotes. If you're a Mark fan you should definitely check it out.

Kit: The Mouse that Roared? I was in that play in middle school.

I wish everyone in the world knew who the Marx brothers were. You guys rock

~Dana

Gutenburg
July 20, 2004, 08:12 AM
I realize that saying this is going to further distance myself from many of you, but I cannot enjoy anything Marx Bros. Am I alone? I also cannot stand The Three Stooges. I know! You all hate me now. I also think that Keaton is far more talented than Chaplin. And can we all agree that Harold Lloyd sucks? I'm anxious to hear if there are other people who "just don't get it."

Dana S
July 20, 2004, 07:29 PM
PLEASE tell me you're joking. I think I disagree with almost everything you just said. It makes me sad that there are people that can't enjoy the wonderment that is the Marx brothers. The Marx brothers are hilarious! I watched them nonstop when I was little. Charlie Chaplin is my personal favorite (he and I even have the same birthday). And no we cannot agree that Harold Lloyd sucks. Harold Lloyd is the man! If nothing else you gotta admit that hanging from a building by three fingers (he wore a prosthetic and olny had 3 fingers on his right hand) without a net or harness or any of that modern crap is pretty amazing. At least you know who these guys are though and plus I agree with you about the three stooges. I just can't stand them.

Gutenburg
July 21, 2004, 10:35 AM
Yeah. I don't know what it is, but I really don't get this type of comedy. It seems so calculated to me. The absolute genious of Keaton (and Chaplin) is their ability to seemingly have no control over their surroundings, and yet they prevail from every situation. Harold Lloyd, while an excellent stunt man, reminds me of the kid in high-school who would use prat falls to disrupt class. Or Chevy Chase's SNL years. He was so freaking out of his league there that he had to fall down and be "the physical one."

I'd love to hear, from an non-film student veiwpoint (as I have heard many arguements from people that are obviously not their own, but their film teachers), why The Marx Brothers are full of "wonderment." Also, remember...While you and I hate The Stooges, there is someone out there who thinks that THEY are the captain's pajamas.

EthanK
July 21, 2004, 10:57 AM
I don't think Dana's argument hit any of the main points as to why the Marx Bros. are considered great. From a non-film student point of view, I think the appeal lies in the variety of things they did in their films. You had wordplay, insult comedy, music, and slapstick and those appeal to different bases. You have to keep in mind that these films were made post-Depression and filmed comedy was still in its infancy - puns ran rampant and the topical references they made are remarkably obscure now (I don't see films like Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle standing up, reference-wise, in 40 years either). But very often the first people to break-out in these roles are the brightest stars. Groucho Marx introduced quick-witted insult comedy to the screen and everyone after him is influenced, directly or indirectly by his work.

But that's not really answering the question. It's really easy for people not to find the Marx Bros. funny. Their later films sucked, I'll admit it. If you have no tolerance for puns, you won't like it. If you hate slapstick or prop comedy, you'll hate Harpo. The reason people like them is that it's something for every taste. If they just did slapstick they'd be Olsen & Johnson or Laurel & Hardy or The Three Stooges. But they involved so much in their films that it appeals to more people - if you don't get a kick out of those things, well then you probably won't like their films.

That being said, I think Duck Soup, Monkey Business, Night at the Opera, Horse Feathers and Animal Crackers are brilliant pieces of random fun since there is no plot, the characters are either the Bros. or foils and they follow similar structures that worked well. There's no commitment to a Marx Bros film, you can start and stop it anytime. They differ from the Stooges in that the Stooges were a one-trick pony: they hurt themselves a lot. I don't find them very engaging after about 5 minutes but with the complex wordplay of the Marx films I'm constantly picking up subtext and nuance. Portions of their films play up, portions of their films play down and the point was never to be good - the point was to be random but appealing.

Richard White
July 21, 2004, 11:00 AM
Also, remember...While you and I hate The Stooges, there is someone out there who thinks that THEY are the captain's pajamas.

That person would be me, Henry Garrett. I think the Three Stooges are beyond brilliant, and they were absolutely perfect for their time and place in comedic history.

Dana S
July 21, 2004, 07:08 PM
I think the Three Stooges are beyond brilliant, and they were absolutely perfect for their time and place in comedic history.

Nobody cares what you think, Mr. Director. ;)

I will admit that all my favorites had bad, even awful movies. I think the worst movie I ever saw was a Harold Lloyd movie-he was this straight laced son of a missionary from China who went around speaking Chinese a lot. So they dubbed in some other guys voice speaking Chinese while Lloyd just moved his mouth around a lot, and not only did the dubbed voice sound nothing like Harold's but there were more than one dubbed voice-you never knew when his voice would miraculously change (probably even to a different dialect). So some evil guys get him elected mayor, he falls in love, is way too nice, good triumphs, blah blah-a negative star rating, probably won a few golden turkey awards.

And I'm not a film student. I would consider myself a student of film, but I'm still in my last year of high school here. I think Ethan hit good points on why the Marx brothers are full of wonderment. Some Marx brothers are pretty bad, when you get past a certain point they were all miserable and didn't want to be making movies any more and that comes through in their performance. My personal favorites are the ones without much plot with them just running around doing random random things. So why are they awesome and endlessly amusing-I don't think I could tell you why I find something funny (though Ethan did it pretty well). I just love Groucho's jokes with double meanings, his insults, witty comments, and the way he runs low down to the ground, and the weird leg dancing thing. All of these could amuse me for hours. I love Harpo's mime bits, and the way he acts things out. I love the way Chico plays the piano and he shoots the last note with his pointer finger like a gun. Zeppo....can't say I'm all that fond of Zeppo, he went behind the screen for a reason. I just love the Marx brothers--who knows why.